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...the Newsletter of Christchurch and District Model Flying Club for...March 2024

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FLYING WING DESIGN WITH KEN STUHR

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It all started with an email to an old friend in Seattle, whom I met on many of the Canada trips I made in the 10s to 20s. Here he is with his big Dunne biplane.

Hello Ken,

I've been idly pondering the Armstrong-Whitworth AW52 for a couple of EDF. I remember you had a model of one of the big US wings at Chilliwack - which airfoil section did you use? Presumably a reflexed one? The 52 has big ailervators and they could be reflexed up in the same way.

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I've had a poor experience with the small Arrows EDF, they are just too quick for my old brain, but I thought this option and say 72" span for 64mm fans or 100" for 70mm might give me a better chance of keeping up with it. If I can keep it oriented, of course!

Mike-

I can respond with some degree of successful experience on this!!

In fact, I have built and flown 4 of the Northrop wings and all have used the prototype airfoil, which is a symmetrical, thick (19%), laminar type developed in the 40s. The washout used by the prototype, 5 deg over the span, was and is sufficient to provide trim. This, like all symmetricals, does not stall nicely, so I have always kept away from the 'edge'.

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I have also done a Horten 18 per one of the many config impressions out there, also using a symmetrical section but somewhat thinner (18% root, 10%tip) with the same spanwise wahsout. This flies with 4 40mm EDFs.

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There are others, but the lesson is: use a symmetrical section with washout to eliminate unknown trim issues of reflexed sections. There is no downside. People hawk on about efficiency, but how do you know in a model? What, it flies 1 more minute ? Doubtful. Anyway, one size bigger battery or another click on the throttle fixes that. But doubt if you could tell the diff. I can't notice any greater cruise pitch angle during flight, which they do, but its not noticeable. Just build light to easily stay away from the stall speed and incorporate 4-5deg washout. Best,  Ken

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The last picture is from Ken’s amazing “Museum” in Seattle which I saw during one of the Canada trips. See the next page!